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to the two of you, i've never been more hopeful about this problem getting resolved. john boehner made conciliatory comments last week and the president made conciliatory-- >> i think ben was saying on the tax issues raising on the rich, debate how much he's going to raise that. he said he wouldn't bend. >> go ahead. >> but that's not the only issue and that's not the only way to solve the problem. so, they will come together and have the solution in the next few weeks. >> boy, i'm glad somebody's optimistic about this, i'm not sure i am. >> i am. >> what i hear people-- >> what do you fear happen? >> there's an unholy alliance of the left saying let's go over the fiscal cliff and libertarians saying let's go over the fiscal cliff. >> neil: and you pick up the pieces under the new year that you want, is that it? >> i think that's pretty much what people think, but the reality is, we'll lose 2 million jobs at a time we can little afford it. the economy will go into recession if it's not already there. and that's a cost we can't afford it pay. >> neil: but you could make a political argu
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